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the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with app update on all of this. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, not quite empty. a lot of lawmakers on a long weekend break. take a look at some of the frustrated constituents they'll face. a protest in baltimore over social security, not the check but the jobs. the people who work in the offices who fear there could be super long lines for taxpayers if, in fact, their jobs are cut in all of this. so where do we stand today? there's a hearing today on capitol hill. the joint economic committee hearing on what can be done for the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner says the administration is willing to go over the cliff, let taxes go up, let these taxes happen if republicans press the idea of no tax increases for the wealthy. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fact that they're talking seems to be progress these days here on capitol hill. >> we'll ta
gerri: we are dangling over the fiscal cliff. but washington is at a standstill. although the president is refusing to sit down with republicans, he did talk to speaker john boehner this afternoon, and the white house is talking to federal agencies, warning them to get ready to go over the cliff. with more on this, congressman tom mcclintock of california. a member of the budget committee. if you for joining us today. you know, we heard about this telephone call between speaker boehner and the president. you think anything will come of that? >> the president has been very clear. he is hell-bent to raise taxes massively on those very wealthy folks made making over $250,000. bearer 80% of small businesses, in and exactly the time when we are depending on them to create two thirds of the new jobs in our country desperately needs. gerri: the republicans are in the way of a settlement. i want to hear what he said today. here is the president. >> we can probably solve this in a week. it is not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says that we need to do a balanced plan. b
to avoid that fiscal cliff. tracy pots joins us from washington with all the details. good morning to you. >> good morning, everyone. a number of high level but individual meetings scheduled here today on capitol hill with really just a handful of lawmakers who could have a big impact on your paycheck. tim giter in and rob neighbors bring the deficit cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> reporter: negotiators are meeting with boehner and top democrats. they heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal here. >> if i were involved in the negotiations like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement is reachable. >> i'm hopeful. it wouldn't put me anywhere near optimistic. >> reporter: one conservative is suggesting that while negotiations continue, congress should stop tax rates going up on the middle class now. >> we're not going to raise taxes on those people. i think we should make that clear to everybody. >> reporter: bottom line, no deal yet. both sides are still talking. and both sides signalling that
miklaszewski, nbc news, pentagon. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with
uncertainty over the battle of the fiscal cliff in washington. that concern might be showing up in the manufacturing sector. the feds said that in some places around the country, manufacturing was slowing down and actually contracting outright. but it said that hiring was up modestly most places and with the holidays coming up. it said that the outlook for retail sales was mostly upbeat. shep? >> shepard: what's with the sirens? is the place on fire? >> no. there is escort going out here from the white house. >> you don't have much clout there. >> the vice president apparently is leaving. >> shepard: he might as well. what will the fed do with today's report? it has a meeting in a couple of weeks, you know. >> this was okay report. more importantly it was not strong enough for the fed to back off stimulus programs keeping interest race very low for a long time and into the economy. at its meeting next month it is expected to reaffirm those policies. continue them. shep? >> shepard: peter barnes there at the firehouse. peter, thanks. president obama and governor romney are set to
. they are still not making much progress in the fiscal cliff. >> doug is live from washington. >> either way they stave off the fiscal cliff. spending cuts at the end of the fiscal year. it has really shocked republicans this year on capitol hill. they say it calls for, for one thing, $1.6 trillion in new tax hikes over a decade. it is also stimulus spending and the spending cuts. both sides are necessary to reduce the deficit. those the president would largely tackle later perhaps next year. >> first despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> perhaps most su prirprising the white house proposal to get the president just about unlimited power to raise the nation's debt sealiceiling and w more and more money unless they reject. these will be tough negotiations ahe
to avoid the "fiscal cliff." the deadline is at the end of the month but lawmakers may only have a couple of weeks to get a deal done. danielle nottingham reports now from washington. >> reporter: washington is driving toward the "fiscal cliff" and with just 29 days left, negotiations are at a stalemate. >> right now i would say we're nowhere. >> reporter: taxes continue to be the line in the sand between democrats and republicans. >> there is no path to an agreement that does not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest. >> reporter: gop lawmakers don't want higher rates and say the obama administration's proposed cuts to entitlements don't go far enough. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they have made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare and medicaid and social security from bankruptcy. >> reporter: if a deal is not reached, taxes go up and spending will be clashed. defense contractors are sending the message to lawmakers those cuts would damage the m
is life in washington with more. >> republicans have had their proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff complete with 800 billion of new revenue over a decade on the table for more than a day now. it has yet to be publicly embraced by the slightest bit by any prominent democrats. because of that gop lawmakers are saying that means the white house wants to go over the fiscal cliff to make it a point. >> howard dean said it patti murray who ran the senator ideal committee. i think the presidency is a political victory for his party as they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned there is going to be a secondary session. >> the white house proposal raises taxes 1.6 trillion over a decade. republicans close loopholes and get rid of deductions. they say the mast won't work. >>> it is still out of balance. it is 800 million worth of revenues. he said he is going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the map it doesn't work. >> the house majority with kevin mccarthy said yesterday the speaker moved to the middle by putting revenue on the table. jay carney also said the boehner plan
some washington over the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes go up. massive spending cuts take hold in just 29 days if the white house and congress can't reach a deal. and they are barely talking right now. abc's jon karl has the latest. good morning, jon. >> reporter: good morning, george. with less than a month to go, the two sides are as far apart as they have ever been. overnight, the president released a new campaign-style video aimed squarely at republicans. >> we need to get tax relief to working families. >> reporter: this morning, about the only thing that the two sides agree on is that going over the so-called fiscal cliff would be a big blow to the economy. >> it would be very damaging to average americans. there's no doubt about it. >> going over the cliff will hurt our economy, will hurt our job creation in our country. it's not fair to the american people. >> reporter: without a deal to cut the deficit, almost everybody's income taxes will go up january 1st. it's more than that. there will be automatic cuts to defense, to medicare doctors, to unemployment benefits. and that co
because of the gridlock in washington over this fiscal cliff. christine, you had a behind-the-scenes look yesterday at what's happened. >> i interviewed the ceo of fedex about the fiscal cliff, energy securities, but along the lines of the fiscal cliff there were a lot of people at this event, gene sperling, an adviser to the president, roy blount, a republican senator from tennessee there as well. people are grim right now about where we are on the fiscal cliff. i asked the ceo of fedex, he employs people. he is shipping packages. he cares about the price of oil, price of energy, and he cares about the clarity of what's happening in washington. listen so what i asked him. >> as a ceo, when you're watching the fiscal cliff, how do you make decisions? is it irrelevant to your business if we go over the fiscal cliff? how does a ceo look at what's happening in washington and decide for next year? >> most of the ceos look at the situation in washington with complete amazement and dismay to be frank about it. the problem is the ideological pinnings on both sides of this argument are so difficu
cliff deal in washington. the dow jones industrial average gained more than 82 points to close at 13,034. but the nasdaq fell nearly 23 points to close at 2,973. the day's big loser was apple, down more than 6% over concerns that smart phone sales are lagging. former texas congressman jack brooks has died. he served 42 years in the house, and was in the dallas motorcade on november 63nd19, hen19 president kennedy was assassited. hours lates bokrowadonan hok as vice president andel fw texan lyndon johnson was sworn in to the presidency. later, brooks helped author the 1964 civil rights act, and he drafted the articles of impeachment against president nixon. jack brooks was 89 years old. those are some of the day's major stories. now, back to gwen. >> ifill: lawmakers stepped up the rhetoric, but grew no closer today to agreement on how to avoid slipping over the so- called fiscal cliff. but each side demanded the other compromise. "newshour" congressional correspondent kwame holman begins our coverage. >> i have to just tell you that is a... that is a bad strategy for america, it's a
what washington needs to crack the whole fiscal cliff thing wide-open. all i'm saying is i think it has the power to bring people together simpson style. that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. >>> new this morning, tanks and personnel carriers stationed outside the presidential palace in egypt, clashes turning deadly overnight. rage at the new leader fears he may become the old leader. we're live from outside the palace in 30 seconds. >>> plus new reports that syria is putting chemical components in bombs. the details, straight ahead. >>> as of this morning for the first time in the history of our country, it is now legal to smoke pot for recreational purposes in a state and we are there for the pot party. good morning, welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans in for john berman this thursday morning. >> i bet you never thought you'd say that, live at a pot party. >>> good morning to you, i'm zoraida sambolin, 5:00 a.m. in the east here. >>> tension has quickly turned to deadly violence in egypt. this morning, tanks and armored personnel carriers are guar
leaders and talk about specific proposals from both sides for an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins from us washington with those details. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. so, it may be no deal today, but perhaps moving forward on these spending cuts and tax increases that are looming at the end of the year. some very specific meetings with a handful of lawmakers who could have a huge impact on your paycheck come january 1st. . treasury secretary tim geithner and white house legislative chief rob neighbors bring the president's deficit-cutting plan to capitol hill today. >> i am very open to a fair and balanced approach to reduce our deficit. >> reporter: republicans want to know, does that approach include the government spending less money? >> we've put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> reporter: white house negotiators are meeting with boehner and top republicans and democrats. executives from big companies heard the plan wednesday at the white house. at least one thinks there could be a deal
to the fiscal cliff battle being waged in washington. now, late this afternoon house speaker john boehner sent a letter to the president detailing a bold counter offer to the administration's plan. the g.o.p. proposal does not include a tax increase on the so-caldwell thee but does contain $800 billion in revenue through tax reform, another $600 billion in health savings and much more. all told, the net savings amount to around 2.2 trillion dollars. the white house responded to this letter by saying that the president is, quote, willing to compromise but not on the subject of making job creators pay more in taxes. however, what our tax and spend commander-in-chief fails to understand is that putting money into the hands of you, the american people, is the single best way to spur economic growth, and it's not just people like ronald reagan who understand this principle. bill clinton famously said the era of big government is over and the end of wel welfare as we know it. why? because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occu
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speaker, john boehner, both expressing optimism on those fiscal cliff negotiations in washington. the dow rallied 100 points yesterday off of those comments. how many times have you heard me say congress will mess it up. >>> goldman sachs ceo met with the president and others yesterday for those fiscal cliff talks. listen to what he told wolf blitzer when asked if taxes should be raised on those making more than $250,000 a year. if that's what it takes to make the math work when you look at entitlement side and revenue side, i wouldn't preclude that. of course we would have to do that if the numbers drive that way. >> he said america can't afford itself right now the way we're going. fiscal cliff talks today continue with geithner making the rounds on capitol hill. later this morning, third quarter gdp expected to be revised higher. economists expect gdp for july to september to be revised from 2% to 2.8%. that would be good news. this is still modest growth. everyone hopes that next year will be a better year than this one in terms of growth. you want to see more than 2.5% growth consist
the deficit. going over the fiscal cliff is the best thing we're going to get out of washington in terms of serious production to the deficit. we will suffer, but we got ourselves into this. we're not going to get out without some pain. i think we are going to go over the cliff. >> let me quickly say i don't favor going over the cliff, but howe regard is right. if you're worried about the deficit, the easiest way is to go over the cliff. you have increases right away. >> yeah. >> can i ask you, though, how can you guarantee e that all the extra tax hikes and provisions actually go towards paying the national debt and not more spending and more programs? >> you can't guarantee that but you have a conservative republican congress. they are not going to vote for any spending increase. why not take advantage of that and make the initial cuts and let them go into a stalemate for awhile. that's a pretty big amount. my sges that provides the certainty. we go back to the clinton tax rates. and we make significant cuts to the deficit and they say, hey, they did something substantial about the maj
republicans want to solve washington's fiscal cliff dilemma, and what the democrats are saying about it. we'll talk about that, and much more with our special guest this morning, the former british prime minister tony blair is with us. but planes from iran. revolutionary guards showing off what they are claiming to be is a captured american drone. coming up why the pentagon says don't believe it. >>> and baby makes three at buckingham palace. the royal couple, will and kate, creating a media frenzy on both sides of the pond with word that they are expecting. we're going to go live to london. >> talk about this morning, in addition to tony blair, we're talking to democratic congressman xavier becerra, republican senator ron johnson from the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest
your business this morning, markets in a holding pattern as fiscal cliff talks continue in washington. but the s&p 500 is up 12% so far this year. and a 20-year veteran investment strategy at goldman sachs, abby joseph cohen, she estimates stocks could rise another 10% to 15% next year. she says the fundamentals of the u.s. are solid, despite the fiscal cliff concerns coming out of washington. she says stocks could get hit in the early part of the area if we go over the fiscal cliff, but the fundamentals of the economy are still good. >>> all right. apple stock dropped more than 6% yesterday. shares were down about half a percent in pre-market trading this morning. no concrete news pushing them down, but today there's another hearing in the patent case with samsung in california. and a tech research report generatored a lot of buzz that apple's tablet competitors could eat into its market share. >> interesting. >> thanks, christine. >>> well, the good news is, let's do the fiscal cliff and the good news. and it's not very much. but at least the two sides are talking, by phone. not fac
sweaters. >> we are also talking about as julia was commencing there the fiscal cliff now what washington the gridlock means i think it's most telling because what senator matt baucus from montana said we have 31 days left yet. we are not near a deal yet. we can't expect any sort of a deal with any weeks before christmas i would think. >> the big knock on the president through the this process has been a failure to lead. i think one that sticks rather well. because, instead of sitting down with john boehner. instead of trying to hash something out. he is out there again campaigning, gives speeches, instead of being the one that sits down and gets this deal down. here is the president on again what appears to be the campaign trail yesterday in pennsylvania. >> santa delivers everywhere, i have been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington. >> [ laughter ] >> you should keep your eye hun gets some connects this year. some members of congress who get them and some who don't. i'm ready to sign it. there are no shortage of pens in the white house. and i carry one around for an emerg
, the fiscal cliff isn't all they're talking about in washington these days. they're also talking playoffs. cnn's brian todd has a closer look at the teams' rookie savior. >> reporter: nicknamed rg3, this 22-year-old has mesmerized the entire city, captured the hearts of football fans throughout the nation's capital. a 2011 heisman trophy winner from baylor and number two overall pick, rg3 is helping to instill a winning attitude as the redskins rebuild. >> accelerating, sliding down, lost the ball, into the hands of joshua morgan. >> reporter: he may be the only person who can actually unify washington. redskins rookie quarterback robert griffin iii. the phenomenon that is rg3 seems to be immuned to pressure. he took another step closer to an improbable playoff run by leading the redskins to their third consecutive win monday night over the defending super bowl champion new york giants. cnn spoke to him in may, shortly after he was drafted. >> it's not about, hey, we're a team that have only made it twice in the past 12 years in the playoffs. it's a team, we have a new start, a new quarterback
, thanks for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. >>> optimism over the fiscal cliff is fading in washington but not on wall street. they continue to believe a deal is coming. the market rundown is next. and from secretary of state to new york city mayor, michael bloomberg's crazy speculation today allowed hillary clinton's future. remember who the deputy mayor is in new york city. maybe it's not so crazy. but first, today's trivia question. how many current senators are named john? any spelling of the name counts. you ever notice that some people just have a knack for giving the perfect gift? they put real thought into it. and find just... the right...thing. how do they do that? more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. pick up a ridgid jobmax multi-tool starter kit and get a free head attachment. for a professional cleansing device? join the counter revolution and switch to olay pro-x. get cleansing results as effective as a $200 system. guaranteed or your money back. olay pro-x. >>> a packed radar this morning. new reports that hillary clinton got a special job pitch. a
to earnings. we're captivated by the what happens in washington and fiscal cliff. through the third quarter earnings season we had massively negative news. that weighed on the stocks. lack of negativity allowed us to have a bit of a bounce back. in reality earnings continue to slow. earnings will continue to slow the next couple of quarters. that probably pulls us back to reality. tracy: you're calling for 1360 you say it has a lot to do with earnings, well, because business investment is slowing? >> right. tracy: will we see a kitchen sink quarter, blame superstorm sandy, blame china, fiscal cliff gives me the right to have bad numbers? >> probably. we probably see a pretty rough fourth quarter in general. the question for me looking past that fourth quarter what do we see the first quarter next year? investors will start positioning for 2013 as a whole and our 2013 call is slow growth in earnings. 3% growth in earnings next year. the one big game changer could be unfortunately the fiscal policy effort. fiscal policy can act to reinvigorate continents and risk taking in the economy could r
with lawmakers today about possible spending cuts. he's also getting ready to take his fiscal cliff message on the road. he'll try to convince the american people the best way to avoid the fiscal cliff is to extend the bush era tax cuts for the middle class. >> it's too important for washington to screw this up. >> reporter: president obama is putting pressure on congressional republicans and he's enlisting middle class americans in getting the gop to take action on taxes. >> when the american people speak loudly enough, lo and behold congress listens. >> reporter: tomorrow he'll host a campaign style event where he calls on lawmakers to extend the tax rates on families making less than $250,000 a year. once that's done they can work on other details such as spending cuts and changes to the tax code, medicare and medicaid. >> he's out there campaigning for his position. i get it. we understand it. at the end of the day he has to lead on this issue. >> reporter: some republican lawmakers have said they are willing to compromise on the tax issue. oklahoma representative tom cole said the gop
it off, but i'm not hearing that. megyn: okay. so then on top of that you got to fiscal cliff discussions in washington where the president wants to raise the income tax on top earners by another 3% or so in addition to this, these taxes you and i were just discussing. >> yeah. and that's a crucial point, because obama has repeatedly said he wants to go back to clinton era rates, but that ignores this new surtax at the beginning of the year. if they take the top rate from 35 to 39.6, it'll actually be 43.4 on investment income because we'll have that additional surtax on top of that. so dividends, for instance, which are 15 now could be going all the way to 43.4 which could have a very negative impact on the stock market. megyn: so right now if you make money off dividends, which a lot of folks do. you know, it's not just the super rich who get dividend income from their stock investments, right now you pay a 15% tax on that, and president obama wants to change that to you should get taxed on that income as though it's your actual, like, salary. and if that, if he gets his way on that, th
today, you know, what's going on in washington and, you know, with this fiscal cliff and, you know, what the impact will be of it. >> well, it's an important point. how is the project funded? where did you source the funding for the development? >> that's one of today's challenges. you don't get to the same costs you would typically get them. it requires more equity and piecing together the banks to put together a loan of the size needed for this. probably our greatest challenge would be -- because we're looking to build. this is only 1,700,000 square feet, in the first phase 6 1/2 million, where's the rest of the capacity to come from for the construction loans that we need? >> the banks were the first source? >> yeah. >> and we're looking at other sources going forward that are kind of unconventional. you have to think outside the box. >> oh, definitely. >> in order to do a job like this today. >> what kind of unconventional sources? >> well, you have a lot of these public reits, you know, that are looking for greater yields, so it's the whole period, i don't know how you do constructi
numbers. details ahead. >>> meanwhile, washington was abuzz over avoiding the looming fiscal cliff. the president's lunch with mitt romney, the united nations note on palestine. all this as joe biden was christmas shopping. >>> and some amazing random acts of kindness. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and today the first of the two grand prize powerball winners will come forward to reveal themselves and have their lives change forever. and there's also buzz about a potential code within the winning numbers. nbc's kerry sanders has that story. >> reporter: in tiny dearborn, missouri, where just about everyone knows everyone, the question is was it one of their own who bought a winning powerball ticket? >> it's exciting, very exciting. we never, ever thought that we would sell the winning ticket, and here it is. we did. >> reporter: folks in this farming community just off interstate 70 are now trying to figure out if the winning numbers were chosen with meaning. dearborn is but 35 miles north of kansas city, home of the royals baseball team. those winning lottery numbers? the
in never neverland. so much for a week of work here in washington to avert what's called the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner gave house republicans new ideas on resolving the fiscal cliff. and left with their anger ringing throughout the capitol. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. i've got to tell you, i'm disappointed. >> reporter: here are the big white house numbers. for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give up that leverage. >> there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. and if we're
of action in washington on the fiscal cliff talk. >> we're going to begin there. signs, perhaps, of a potential compromise there to avoid the so called fiscal cliff that would raise taxes on a typical american family by some $2,200. republican congressman tom cole, of oklahoma, is urging republicans to accept president obama's deal and allow the bush-era tax cuts on the wealthy to expire for now. so tax cuts for the middle class can stay in effect. but house speaker john boehner remains opposed, saying a tax hike on the wealthy will hurt the economy. >>> today, president obama is hosting mitt romney at the white house for a private lunch. after the election, the president promised to reach out to romney for his ideas. >>> and overseas, the u.s. could be getting more involved in the civil war in syria. "the new york times" is reporting the obama administration is considering options, including arming the rebel fighters there who have made progress in recent days in battling bashar al assad's forces. >>> and more trouble for president obama's expected nominee for secretary of stat
republicans unveiling a bold proposal to avoid a so-called fiscal cliff. the white house didn't waste any time attacking it. kelly wright is live in washington with more on this. good morning, kelly. >> good morning to you. the back and forth is continuing in a letter with president obama. american people expect leaders to find fair middle ground with the nation's most pressing challenges. with that they propose is a counter over for the fiscal cliff. the republican plan has will00 billion for tax freerm 900 billion in mandatory spending cuts and 300 billion in discretionary cuts. the proposal falls short of what the president wants and cannot be taken seriously. >>> we understand they don't agree with everything the president has put on the table but we haven't seen alternatives for that. they have spoken about an avenue and that challenge is welcome. republican leaders have been adamant they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2 percent of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. the rates have to rise and republicans need to acknowledge that. >> the major
, with only four weeks to go before we reach that fiscal cliff, republicans offer a proposal for a new deal. it had few specifics. the white house rejected it. tracie potts joins us from washington with the details. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. with a white house proposal and republican proposal on the table, you'd think we would have somewhere to begin negotiations. the white house says what republicans have offered isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make
. the president makes an offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. lso where are the cuts? we are live in washington with the details. look at that guy. a construction worker walks in a convenience store checks his number and walks out perhaps a multimillionaire. we'll tell it to you straight away. >> officer and a gentleman. you will hear from the cop who spent his hard earned cash to buy a pair of socks and shoes. he pet them on him. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ ho, ho hompt >> indeed. rick it is not christmas time here in new york city until rick descends down one of the tallest buildings in connecticut and there he is. screen left from last year screen right. when he bumped into the building. good morning to you rick. >> some traditions like fruit cake that shouldn't happen . maybe it is one of those tradition. you do it once and this is a building here. give you a shot from the top going down. it gets a little dark there. it gives you an individual. tan ford downtown height lights and they start it off by santa going over this with elvescan on sunday night. last couple of years w
thing is for sure, fiscal cliff comments from washington have been having an impact. >> i would hope our friends on the other side can turn off the campaign. >> we could have prevented this crisis months ago. by just simply adopting what passed in the senate. >> president obama is meeting with high profile chief executive officers today to talk about country's fiscal issues. >> we're here to support doing the right thing and putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know the consequences of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. >> i'm optimistic we'll continue to work together. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. >> stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress has been made in talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. the white house has to get serious. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it. we've said it. we've said it so many
pockets, i guess. >>> now, the stalemate in washington over the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes are set to go up in just over a month if congress and the white house fail to reach a deal. and the talks blew up yesterday, after republicans dismissed the latest offer from secretary tim geithner. just listen to house speaker john boehner and senate majority leader, harry reid. >> listen this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line. and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> i don't understand his brain. so, you should ask him. okay? >> tough words there. abc's jon karl is covering this all from capitol hill. jon, as we said, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says he laughed out loud at geithner's offer. break down the offer from the white house and the republican objections. >> reporter: not only did he laugh out loud, the speaker saying it's unrealistic. the key is $1.6 trillion in tax increases over the next ten years. $50 billion in additional stimulus spending. $400 billion in medicare cuts. but unspecified over the next ten years. and effecti
will blame republicans and 29% would hold the president responsible if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff. the two sides appear close to an agreement on little things. it could lead to higher airline ticket prices and no more mail delivery on saturday. >> oh, boy. susan mcginnis in washington this morning. susan, thank you so much. one of the tax breaks due to expire next month is the payroll tax. that's the tax listed on your pay stub as fica. the money you pay into social security and medicare. it was reduced by two percentage points during the recession. jim axelrod has more. >> reporter: the payroll tax cut has given this family an extra $70 a month to spend. john is a maintenance man in jersey city, new jersey. >> are you paying any attention to what's going on in washington right now? >> of course. >> reporter: their $50,000 a year income put them almost exactly in the middle of the american household. if it's not extended those $1,035 more. >> do you have room to cut back? >> no. >> reporter: if the tax cut expires paycheck contributions will go from 4.2% to 6.2%. that's $115 bill
. >> a nice collector. >> absolutely. >>> when it comes to avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff, where do we stand in washington's version of let's make a deal? we'll break down the negotiations with two top political strategists, ari fleischer and paul begala are both standing by live right here in "the situation room." [ gordon ] for some this line is a convenience. how you doing today? i'm good thanks. how are you? i'm good. [ gordon ] but for others, it's all they can afford. every day nearly nine million older americans don't have enough to eat. anything else? no, not today. join me, aarp, and aarp foundation in the drive to end hunger by visiting drivetoendhunger.org. [ male announcer ] can a car be built around a state of mind? ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable new interior featuring the available chevrolet mylink infotainment system. this is where sophisticated styling begins. and where it ends? that's up to you. it's here -- the greatest malibu ever. ♪ now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really
for signs of progress, jon. jon: we are, indeed. mike emanuel, keeping an eye on the fiscal cliff negotiations for us there in washington. thanks, mike. jenna: from capitol hill to the white house now, and right now the president is getting ready to host governor mitt romney for lunch. the former rivals will be meeting behind closed doors in a private white house dining room. reporters were not invited. jon: oh, gee. jenna: left off that invitation list. jay carney says there's no formal agenda, and we don't know the menu as well. very curious ability what they're serving today n. his victory speech, president obama said he was looking forward to sitting down with governor romney and talking about ways they can move together to move the -- they can work together to move the country forward. he will also meet with his former running mate, congressman paul ryan. jon: vice president joe biden today calling for a middle class tax cut while getting in some christmas shopping as well. mr. biden visited the first costco store to open in washington. we won't tell you what he bought to put
-10 when i went to bed. >> i saw it. washington might be paralyzed about this ridiculous fiscal cliff, but we're happy about this. >> gretchen: the only good news for washington now is the redskins win. >> and the weather. >> gretchen: the third thing is that the white house leaks are now saying that president obama actually maybe wants to go over the fiscal cliff if the republicans do not agree to raising income tax rates even though yesterday they agreed to these deductions and loopholes and getting rid of them, which essentially many people argue, would do somewhat of the same thing. your thoughts? >> right. so there are going to be consequences for syria if they use chemical weapons and the president thinks there is going to be severe consequences for the republicans if, in fact, we go over this precipice and raise your hand if you're tired of this cliche about the fiscal cliff. he thinks look, the republicans will suffer terribly, the country will be thrown into some turmoil, he thinks and he thinks he's the winner either way. it's easy for the president and his team to go out th
over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said republicans have taken to screaming at them. if no action is taken by december 31st, 650 billion in cuts to the pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases automatically go into effect. after the meeting, the finger-pointing came quickly. republicans say democrats aren't bringing to the table a plan that include significant cuts to medicare and entitlement programs. >> revenue was only on the table. if they were serious. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down
that the ramifications of the fiscal cliff, um, will be important. i'm optimistic that we're going to get some leadership in washington that'll actually save us from having to go off that cliff or down that hill, if you will. but i think we are -- there's uncertainty. and whenever there's uncertainty, the market will have less volume in it. liz: tom kloet, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. liz: ceo of the tmx group. david: a u.s. plant right in the heart of canada. they don't realize it yet. [laughter] good to see you. >> thank you. david: well, is now the time to buy apple? a morningstar senior equity analyst thinks so and says some of the blame for the recent decline should fall on washington. why? find out why, coming next. liz: plus, choice hotels expanding its upscale brand right here in america. they must believe that there's a real market here. find out why they're starting three brand new upscale ones at least here in new york. steve joyce, choice hotels ceo and president, joining us after the break. ♪ music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the hea
to art. congratulations to all. that is your 5@5:00. >>> with a few weeks until the year end fiscal cliff there is still no deal in sight. both sides are showing no signs of budging. kelly wright is live in washington with details for us. >>> less than month ago for tax hikes. they automatically place democrats and republicans are further apart on a the plan. tim geithner changed the plan last week. that plan calls for 1.6 trillion of higher taxes over the next decade $50 billion stimulus package and provide 600 billion in spending cuts. he is waiting for root pe kaub cans to respond to the plan for the president's proposal. >> we think that's a good set of proposals and good for the economy. if they have different suggestions they should slay it out to us. >> republican leaders should make the deeper cuts on medicare, medicaid and social security. as for raising taxes on the wealthy, republicans want a great higher revenue for closing loopholes and limiting deductions not a tax hike. they are not pleased with the president's proposal. >>> i was flabber fasted. i looked at them said you c
's no question in my mind that going over the fiscal cliff which is frankly not nearly as big a deal as the washington media says it is, and confronting head on that we are not going to continue this pattern of deficit spending is far better for them than to raise taxes, slow the economy, and grow government. if you give the democrats -- the president's budget proposal said give me higher taxes so i can spend even more. >> sean: as i said, the big disappointment to me today was kind of shocking to hear that speaker boehner adopted the language of the president as it relates to class warfare. yeah, we're raising money on the rich. i don't care if you say revenues or tax rates, it's still the same thing. i was a little surprised that conservative tea party members are now being pulled out of different committees as a kind of punishment because they didn't go along with the leadership. so i'm saying what are they standing for? >> i think that's a very dangerous game to play. i think that the country believes that somebody ought to stand up for smaller government, somebody ought to stand
officials would behave like spoiled children in the fiscal cliff discussions. only 28% said they would behave like adults. tonight signs that maybe some adult behavior might be prevail and a compromise might be reached. jessica yellen joins us, dana bash and david gergen. what's the latest? >> reporter: they are a long way from a deal, but late today speaker boehner and president obama did speak to one another on the phone. now, this is an important development because it's the first time they've talked in a week about the fiscal cliff. i am told, though, that there was no real progress in negotiations. in this sense there was no breakthrough on that central point of tax rates. as you know, president obama insists there is no deal unless the gop agrees to raise rates on the top 2% of earners. the gop says that's a nonstarter and the two men have not moved from that basic position. now, all of this quomz comes at the same time treasury secretary geithner also said for the first time the administration would be willing to go over the fiscal cliff if the gop does not agree to raise those
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